• Whistleblowers AreHeros
    Whistleblowers AreHeros
    2017-10-21

    Yes, banks do that already, it's called Fiat money

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  • Dhan Hurley
    Dhan Hurley
    2017-10-21

    Hi W, This was actually a scientific experiment, the first, that has proven that banks can create money from nothing.... Dhan

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  • Whistleblowers AreHeros
    Whistleblowers AreHeros
    2017-10-21

    They already do/are.

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  • herzmeister der welten
    herzmeister der welten
    2017-10-22

    they do, it's not a secret, and it's not as bad as it sounds. many LETSs work the same actually. the problem is, like with many things, the large scale; all the middlemen that are introduced, that can find loopholes, and that can profit from information asymmetry.

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  • Whistleblowers AreHeros
    Whistleblowers AreHeros
    2017-10-22

    It is when the Fiat bubble busts.

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  • Dhan Hurley
    Dhan Hurley
    2017-10-22

    Hi, A currency must have a real value, though.... Dhan

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  • Whistleblowers AreHeros
    Whistleblowers AreHeros
    2017-10-22

    Not according to the Federal Reserve..

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  • Dhan Hurley
    Dhan Hurley
    2017-10-22

    Hi W, Exactly... Dhan

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  • herzmeister der welten
    herzmeister der welten
    2017-10-22

    Define “real value”.

    At the end of the day money is information. That’s all it is.

    You ask me to mow your lawn. I do. Eventually I want society do something for me in return, when I need something. We just have to write down that I mowed the law for you, and society has to trust this information. That’s the purest form of money. The problem is, how to trust that this information is correct? We both could just have made this up.

    But basically, that’s how LETSs work. You “just” need to establish trust in those local communities.

    And banking nowadays works the same, just on a bigger scale.

    A medium of exchange, like gold, is just a tool to store and exchange the information of value. But it is an intermediate step. The nice thing about it is surely that it requires no intermediary institution. But only if you use gold coins themselves. Historically, people eventually used receipts, hence established middlemen, hence fractional reserve banking came to be. Trust was introduced again in the equation, and that trust was broken.

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  • Dhan Hurley
    Dhan Hurley
    2017-10-22

    Hi Herz, Interesting. What would happen if i could make gold from ,for example, salt or minerals? And what if there was a lot more of this "invisible" gold than the "normal" metallic gold we know. This is NOT a fantasy but a reality... Dhan

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  • herzmeister der welten
    herzmeister der welten
    2017-10-22

    then gold would become inflationary and worthless

    (if it required not much energy to turn minerals into gold that is)

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  • Whistleblowers AreHeros
    Whistleblowers AreHeros
    2017-10-23

    Exactly

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  • Whistleblowers AreHeros
    Whistleblowers AreHeros
    2017-10-23

    At Herzmeister

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  • Dhan Hurley
    Dhan Hurley
    2017-10-23

    Hi, I*t is fairly simple to turn this ceramic ( de-clustered ) gold into metallic gold. I am sure that the big metal companies are already doing it.
    In seawater and also in certain minerals on land there seems to be 10,000 times more of this type than the normal metal form...
    * Dhan

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  • Whistleblowers AreHeros
    Whistleblowers AreHeros
    2017-10-24

    Did not know that, at Dhan.

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